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  Gilles 今年第一站在Final時罷賽 @@a btt
  張貼者: FrankYueh     張貼時間: 2013/04/23
   
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文章於 2013/04/26 由 frankyueh 做過第 1 次的修改
這是今晚突然在FB上看到的消息...
後來我去查了一下,這邊以我自己所查到的整理如下

前天比賽出來的成績:
LINK

由上面積分表可以看到,Gilles因為放棄比賽所以沒有成績。(而這次的冠軍是Vincent)
他放棄的理由是因為他認為UCI在這一站所安排的路線,加上天候因素所造成的環境實在是太險惡
而主辦對這些路段又沒有更妥善的修改,對場上的運動員造成太大的風險,因此用退賽的決定來對UCI進行抗議

網友的一些討論其實反應有些兩極

有人說,那樣的路段,你就是進去送死,那根本是不可能騎的東西,這樣的比賽還有什麼意義
超深的泥巴地,綁的不牢靠的棧板,連觀眾都沒辦法走過去看的路段,就讓一堆這些車手進去摔泥巴地
這樣的比賽已經不是比賽了...

但也有人說,Gilles在一開始還跟Vincent分數相差不遠,後來當Vincent完成了最後一圈,該圈總共只扣了16分
而這時Gilles還剩兩個路段但他已經連續拿3個五分,但他卻在這時候宣佈放棄,如果Vincent沒有領先
那Gilles可能今天不會做出這樣的決定,但又有人回應
其實Gilles也可不必放棄比賽,以他當時放棄前的成績,他就算每個路段進去就雙腳下來5分,他也可以拿第三

images/forum/2013/21105_442209212538684_707859596_n.jpg

這UCI地型殺人,我想已經不是一天兩天的事,也很多選手反應給UCI
長久以來好像這就是UCI的趨勢,要不然我們怎麼每次看UCI都這麼血脈噴張

Gilles今天以他世界第一的頭銜這麼做,不知道是他是「賭氣」還是「骨氣」
事情還沒發展完,可以慢慢看下去

▼ NEVER-AGAIN 在TrialInside首頁可以看到大大的標題
images/forum/2013/capture551759.png

▼ Gilles他哥說這是一項新運動,Trial Walking 隨後有有人補Surfing
images/forum/2013/capture1.png

▼ Rick Koekoek 說這真是最糟糕的一場比賽,全都是泥巴
images/forum/2013/capture2.png


另外大家可以再參考參考

http://www.observedtrials.net/vb/f3/world-cup-live-49701/index2.html

http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/topic/181766-uci-live-result/
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  RE: Gilles 今年第一站在Final時放棄了比賽 @@a
  回應者: mark     回應時間: 2013/04/23
   
主辦比賽的人對賽場設施的危險性非常清楚, 攀岩車本來就有一些不可掌控的因素會摔車, 如果過分強調比賽的刺激性而忽略選手的安全, 把攀岩車比賽當羅馬競技場或是馬戲團來娛樂觀眾, 犧牲的還是那些頂尖的好手, 抗議啦!
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  RE: Gilles 今年第一站在Final時放棄了比賽 @@a
  回應者: FrankYueh     回應時間: 2013/04/26
   
補上兩個比賽影片

http://vimeo.com/64618445  喜歡(1)+ 展開- 隱藏

http://www.photobysergio.fr/benito-ros-heubach.html

真的超尼巴,但還看不出來罷賽的點在那裡XD~
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  RE: Gilles 今年第一站在Final時罷賽 @@a
  回應者: FrankYueh     回應時間: 2013/04/26
   
引用 Statement by Abel Mustieles - I dont like today 的文章-

There are two reasons why I don’t like today’s trials:

1) I’m home, feeling and knowing I did well, really well, but I didn’t get the result I deserved. I don’t mind at all I lost due to a time penalty, that’s not the thing that bothers me. What makes me feel sad is going back home with a 2nd place, knowing that I took more chances and tackled all zones with more risks than my rivals, and that didn’t have an effect on the final outcome. Why?

Because today’s trials regulations don’t reward those who risk – they don’t take penalties on those who ride carefully, either. It’s the same to make a ‘fiasco’ (5 points) in the second obstacle of a zone than making it in the sixth one, after going through the first five… Those are things we should change for trials being fair.

2) The rounds at Heubach weren’t normal trials. They were quite atypical ones, where we struggled to survive. I think the organizers weren’t at the height of circumstances nor aware of the danger some of the zones implied – some others had obstacles impossible to tackle, and all riders had to put their feet on them to get through. Incidentally, those were the zones with the biggest crowds. I imagine the people at the dangerous zones looking at each other and not to the action, not wanting to see a rider crashing out and killing himself when tackling a zone first or second. There was a zone where people weren’t able to discern whether we were trials riders or mountainners.

That’s why I’m wondering:

Why is it so difficult to cover the trunks with chain nets so we don’t slip? Of course I understand we have to fly three meters high to get through some obstacles, but let’s ride with minimum security guarantees. It would also be appropiate to have some air beds on the ground around the obstacles so as not to injury when crashing.

Why don’t we have a competent jury? The jury is in charge of checking all zones, and should be able to modify those who offer security challenges and adapt them to the race circumstances.

The best way to protest in the face of those two big –and unfortunately usual- issues was taken by World Champion Gilles Coustellier. That was a measure I can only show support to.

These are the things I would change:

Bringing up a full regulation change, so trials are more just.
Establishing a zone jury in every competition, selected by the riders, that revises the zones and improves security.
Changing race schedules (you can’t hold a semifinal at 8am, because riders have to get up at 5.30am and most hotels don’t even offer breakfast at that time, not to talk about the significant loss of crowd attendances that implies).
Finally, establishing a SUPERFINAL in all competitions, with a format different to the one put into practice right now – one that is more exciting for everyone.

There are several riders like us who want to change trials, but we need support from everyone, and above all... WE NEED THE UCI TO LISTEN TO US.

See you in Poland…

Abel Mustieles

Abel的訪談,關於他對那天比賽的看法。

原文: http://www.tribalzine.com/?Abel-Mustieles-I-don-t-like-today
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  RE: Gilles 今年第一站在Final時罷賽 @@a
  回應者: mark     回應時間: 2013/04/26
   
在原文的敘述中說這場比賽的設置安排跟通常的比賽不一樣, 選手與其說是在比賽求勝不如說是在掙扎求生, 有一些難度高到不合情理的障礙物完全沒有人能不扣分通過, 而在三公尺的高度做這些動作選手有可能失敗摔死, 其他關於比賽的規則等選手也有意見, 因此原文中建議以後在高危險的地區的地上應該要鋪設氣墊以保護選手的安全.
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  RE: Gilles 今年第一站在Final時罷賽 @@a
  回應者: FrankYueh     回應時間: 2013/04/29
   
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  RE: Gilles 今年第一站在Final時罷賽 @@a
  回應者: 攀岩以斯拉     回應時間: 2013/04/29
   
Benito Ros 大概是世界最強的選手吧 他沒有步上 Danny 受傷之路 (還得外科手術治療) 算他真的是厲害!!!!
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  RE: Gilles 今年第一站在Final時罷賽 @@a
  回應者: jason     回應時間: 2013/04/29
   
哈..youtube是我放上去的
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  RE: Gilles 今年第一站在Final時罷賽 @@a
  回應者: FrankYueh     回應時間: 2013/04/29
   
引用 jason 的文章-
哈..youtube是我放上去的

jason兄太強大了!!!!
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  RE: Gilles 今年第一站在Final時罷賽 @@a
  回應者: mark     回應時間: 2013/04/30
   
在這場比賽進行中, 場邊有這麼一場對話:

選手A: " XD! 上面那個最高的地方跳的時候還要扭腰擺臀才上得去 把我當舞女啊!"

選手B: " X! 當舞女也就算了, 萬一摔下來我看連腰都不會扭了!"

選手C: " XD 鳥蛋! 叫那個場地設計師給我站到那上面去看看會不會死人!"

這時他們後面有一個人遮著臉快步鑽進觀眾人群急匆匆跑走......

接著選手A又說: "我跟贊助商說場地這麼難搞又都是泥巴我不想騎, 後來贊助商說要給我兩倍出場費我才上場的."

選手B說: "唉! 我沒那麼好的行情, 老闆說我不騎就要炒我尤魚, 後來只給我100歐元壓驚費."

選手C聽了跳起來大叫: "那我什麼津貼都沒有! 要我白死啊! 幹! 老子不騎了!"

--- 以上虛擬對話如有相同純屬巧合---